Since lots of people seem to be ending up here wondering where Hatelife is, let me give you a brief explanation:
- Steve appears to have removed hatelife from his server.
- Miles tells me that Steve is transferring the domain to Miles’ name.
- Miles intends to put hatelife back the way it was.
- No one’s journals are lost forever.
There will be a slight delay while the DNS changes go through and Miles puts the site back up. So before anyone else tries to post a guilt trip or angry comments here, let’s just be clear about one thing. None of the people on this site had anything to do with what happened to hatelife. In fact, one of the people on this site is working to restore it. So you might want to think before venting your spleen at him. I can’t speak for Miles, but if I started taking shit from the hatelife community for Steve’s actions, my desire to restore the site would quickly disappear.
Just be cool, and the site will return shortly.
UPDATE: See this post for information about the hatelife archive.
I'm a 30-year-old 
hooray for miles!
June 6th, 2004 at 1:38 pm
from an old hatelifer: thanks for the update. very kind of you to explain, although definately not your responsibility. also future thanks and luck to miles. some of us hatelifers can be real assholes.
June 6th, 2004 at 5:54 pm
I second the above. It’s good to know hatelife’s not permanently dead. Out of curiosity, does anyone out there know why Steve decided to just up and pull the site down? It seemed so sudden….
June 6th, 2004 at 6:17 pm
Thanks for updating on the hatelife problems, and thanks and good luck to Miles for setting it back up.
June 6th, 2004 at 6:46 pm
This is the best news I have heard in years, thank you guys tons and tons. Does anyone have any idea how long it will be (hours, days, months) before hatelife is up again, and what the new address will be?
Also, the link in the parent post is dead along with hatelife, can we see it some other way?
Thanks
alex
PS. Scott, we love you more than we ever hated Steve
June 6th, 2004 at 7:51 pm
Yes, I am one of those who ended up here in search of hatelife information. Thankyou.
June 6th, 2004 at 11:18 pm
Alex: More details will come when they’re ready. I can’t speak to Miles’ timetable for restoring the site, but my understanding is that it will be back up at http://www.hatelife.org, and that it will be the “good” version (meaning, the one before Steve turned off all the features).
June 7th, 2004 at 12:11 am
Cool
June 7th, 2004 at 9:06 am
I am curious to know what Steve is going through right now.
June 7th, 2004 at 10:13 am
Well, the names on this list were cool as best as I could tell, but I can’t blame Steve one bit for what he did.
Did you see some of those journals/comments directed at Steve? I’d never seen a group of people be so ungreatful and disrespecting of a free service.
Most hatelifers don’t deserve to have it back. I will be Uber-Happy when it is though.
June 7th, 2004 at 10:58 am
Did Steve’s disassociation from Scott/kmorg coincide with the death of Sean Stolon or with the replacement of forum5000 with Moveable Type?
As an outside observer with some reference (I worked with Scott and Miles at Portland State and spoke to Steve on a few occasions), I know for a fact that Scott (and Miles) is coolio, wasn’t so sure about Steve-0. Oh yeah, Annie and KT are great too.
Maybe Steve is having a mid-mid-life crisis. Of course, it is not my business. I just wanted to give a shout out to Scott and his peeps because it has been a while.
June 7th, 2004 at 12:29 pm
One of my big pet peeves is an entire group being punished for the misdeads of a small number of its memebers. The ingratitude (which definitely existed) of a few members of hatelife is not a valid reason to bring the whole thing down. I don’t know that that’s why it happened; it’s just one of the theories being thrown about.
What I’d really like is to hear from Steve himself why he just up and killed the thing. I think what Steve did was a crappy thing to do to the hatelife community. While it’s true that hatelife wouldn’t have existed without Steve, it also wouldn’t have existed without the members. To just shut the thing down without any notice is at best disrespectful to every single person on there. What about those of us who’ve been posting there for years and who have been full of gratitude and praise for Steve? Hatelife and the people who made it what it was deserved much better.
June 7th, 2004 at 1:23 pm
I guess I missed the whole hubbub since I only read the older journals, irregularly at that… It was very strange for it to not be there anymore and I am very glad it will be returning (in whatever incarnation the owner sees fit).
But let me get this rumor straight: One day hatelife is there then next day it’s gone — poof– no explaination because people were disrespecting steve? I don’t know steve very well but that seems a little immature. Why would he take it down for some trivial little comments made by teenagers? I have a hard time believing that.
Whatever the reason, I and I guess everyone else would still like to know why … What happened?
June 7th, 2004 at 7:53 pm
Scott: thanks for the update on hatelife. Try not to be too snarky with people like me who end up here; you _were_ listed as one of the creators on the front page. Maybe you should put up a disclaimer/link for those expecting answers for Steve’s actions?
June 7th, 2004 at 8:58 pm
I think it was a big set up from the start. Steve invites a bunch of cool people to stay at his house for years and then one day - he chucks a grenade in there and skips town.
Did Steve finally get those immortality bracelettes? I guess he could stay in the house and just drop the grenade on the floor while he’s wearing those. He might be riding the proverbial Hale-Bop commet right now, laughing at us.
I appreciate all of the work Steve did for us before he started dropping all of the grenades. Actually, I kinda also appreciate someone who gets everyone talking by going out with a bang.
Thanks for the update Scott.
June 7th, 2004 at 11:29 pm
Have I mentioned that I think Dan is one of the coolest people ever?
June 8th, 2004 at 6:34 am
Good to know Hatelife is coming back. :)
June 8th, 2004 at 2:01 pm
I AM curious to know what went down. I hadn’t posted in a little while and all of a sudden it seemed the shit had hit the fan. I’m glad to hear it’s going back up. I think this should prompt people to backup their journals in some form or another so that if the site ever did have a catastrophic meltdown of some sort, they won’t be bitching about loosing years of personal thoughts. I know I’M gonna start doing it. That would actually be a really COOL feature. Have a button to download a .txt file version of your journal for backup purposes, from the first post to the latest, including replies.
But….YAY!
June 8th, 2004 at 5:27 pm
thank you miles.
June 9th, 2004 at 2:21 am
Thanks for the update.. the thought of the site returning is a bright ray of light on a clouded moment.. i think ppl were upset the most because of all the lost memories of what they had posted there.. its like taking a part of a person and saying that none of it mattered when infact.. hatelife was probably one of the greatest outlets for many a person… was nasty how it was just kaboomed away on us tho.. oh well happy times shall return (we hope) =)
June 10th, 2004 at 8:42 pm
I coined the “Great Deletion” thus i’m coining this “The Great Ressurection”…until i think of something better…i suck.
June 10th, 2004 at 8:46 pm
fojar is disolving too :(
June 11th, 2004 at 2:17 pm
like many others, I didn’t know steve well or at all. But… fuck what he did was so fucking ..rude?
my chest litterally froze when my browser kept saying ‘error’
but I’m glad the site is going back up :D!
June 13th, 2004 at 10:56 pm
steve’s always been pretty hostile towards the community. i can’t say this totally surprises me, i’m just glad miles is taking care of it, and i hope steve gets whatever shit he has going on straightened out.
June 14th, 2004 at 9:29 pm
It seems the hatelife community (or at least those that I took great pleasure in knowing) found there way here. Good. Very Good.
I was gonna ask if any one had contact info for Steve so i could _try_ to see a)whats up and b)get a copy of my journal, since I hadn’t backed it up before the unexpected shutdown. I know its going back up but I’d feel better if i knew I had my journal saved on my hard drive. If you know anyway sort of screen name, or email, or whatever, let me know at= westjb@vcu.edu
Lets save the judgements of Steve for some other time. At this point it doesn’t matter really. He definitly didn’t shut the hite down because of some whinny teenage douchèbags. I think the man just had stuff going on, and needs to focus on that. nough said.
Miles, I wish you all the luck with the site.
Until then,
~!elderlegendlove
June 15th, 2004 at 12:06 pm
Well thats pretty cool. I wonder if it will be put up as the old new Hatelife, or as the new old Hatelife? I kinda liked the new old Hatelife, as it was just so much simpler and to the point. I liked the idea of having the simple Hatelife, spiced up a bit with better colors and formatting, and having the old new Hatelife archived so our journals arent lost forever in the endless void of the internet.
-thedreamer
June 15th, 2004 at 8:06 pm
That’s nice to hear. I won’t be coming back though. I’ve found a forum that is perfect for me.
Good luck w/ the new site!
June 15th, 2004 at 9:18 pm
Hatelife is coming back? Good.
June 16th, 2004 at 10:50 am
Shit, this is the best news I’ve had all week!
Thank you Miles whoever you may be.
June 18th, 2004 at 9:26 am
I’ve been so busy lately that I missed all the hatelife drama. It would truly suck if I lost the portions of my journal that I never transferred from hatelife.
Meanwhile my readers can read my journal at:
http://www.geocities.com/horny_boy_diary/
horny boy
June 18th, 2004 at 2:17 pm
Thank goodness it’s going to be back up and running soon. I tried to look around at other sites, but I didn’t like any of them. I’m greatful that someone is will to take over. :)
June 18th, 2004 at 4:37 pm
i am so glad to hear hatelife is back up. i had to go out and get a ::sigh:: livejournal account. it seems so impersonal there, but at hatelife it really did (does, and/or will) seem like more of a community.
June 20th, 2004 at 1:27 am
Thank you so much I am so greatful to you Miles. I want my journal back so much. I’ve been searching the internet for a way to get it back and I’ve finally found it. I’m so happy.
June 20th, 2004 at 3:25 pm
Yea… this is sorta personal… and donna AIM him just to bitch… but if you really want to honestly have a good chat with good ol’ steve his AIM is ********.
[Censored by Scott - Steve may or may not be the biggest asshole ever - but this is still crossing the line.]
June 20th, 2004 at 3:27 pm
thank god i thought maybe i was going to start telling PEOPLE about my problems (lol
June 20th, 2004 at 5:45 pm
yes, that’s a good idea. let’s post all of steve’s personal information so people who don’t know him can attack him whenever they want. he’s not a person or anything. of course not. he exists exclusively for the use of random people on the internet. glad that got cleared up.
June 20th, 2004 at 6:54 pm
I tried typing hatelife.org into my browser’s address window several times, just out of sheer habit.
Glad to know it’s not gone for good.
Now, someone bring back Steve Day, god dammit.
June 21st, 2004 at 12:25 am
i miss you guys. thanks to scott for keeping us informed.
i hope steve finds what he is looking for.
June 21st, 2004 at 10:00 pm
well theres only a few that Ive kept in touch with, but glad to know it will be coming back.
June 23rd, 2004 at 9:29 am
sigh.
much thankfulness
on behalf of the anal hatelife community who bitched about the demise of the system I’d like to apologise also.
looking forward to better things
June 24th, 2004 at 8:57 pm
btw, there is an orkut community for hatelifers to keep in touch with.
http://orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=100762
June 24th, 2004 at 11:39 pm
Welp, good to know that I didn’t really lose anything. BUT I’LL BE BACK.
June 26th, 2004 at 8:16 am
it’s good to hear about the return of hatelife. I hope it works out for the best.
XOXO,
disenchantedgrl
June 28th, 2004 at 12:18 pm
i just decided to search around for hatelife now
good to know hatelife is going back up i suppose. except this post was made on june 6th and it’s the 28th.
June 28th, 2004 at 6:46 pm
Well i guess not wanting to run hatelife is a reason to leave…but at least give the volly up to whoever wants to run it. I would of bought it from him lock, stock and barrel.
Again thank you Scott for letting us have a mini forum to know and speak about hatelife (even if you didn’t want it on your blog)
I was seriously entertaing the ideal of putting up a new hatelife type site. I found the fojar software in the wayback achine, but I am so glad it is coming.
For those of you who want to see hatelife in its previous glory:
http://www.archive.org/
Now that I read more and more I don’t hate steve. I hated he gave no reason. I hate the ignoring of emails. He’s just a person who did a nice thing, but wanted to go home. I’m sorry for being an ass and the contant emailing.
June 28th, 2004 at 10:39 pm
if you want an orkut membership, send me your email address and i will send you the invite.
jennjenn_the_engine@yahoo.com
June 29th, 2004 at 10:28 am
well what a shock. i finaly get around to posting to my hatelife jornal. and poof no hatelife. =/
good to hear that its coming back. in one form or a nother. i agree some of the comunity are the types of people you want to choke untill they turn your favorite collor. but still even village has to have people you want to beat the snot out of. or beat over the head with a dictonary *points at him self*
any way thanks for the update i will randomly try to go to hatelife or will check back here once in a while.
July 1st, 2004 at 5:35 pm
One month tomorrow since this went up, I have no clue how long it SHOULD take, but I hope that it isn’t much longer. How long does it generally take to do something like this? Are we looking at 3 more days, weeks, months, years? I have no clue.
I am still eternally greatful to Miles for having the integrity to help all of us in this huge way. I didn’t keep my hatelife anywhere, and I have been hoping like hell that I’ll be able to get it back someday. That thing was ME, goddammit.
July 5th, 2004 at 11:15 am
One month tomorrow since this went up, I have no clue how long it SHOULD take, but I hope that it isn’t much longer. How long does it generally take to do something like this? Are we looking at 3 more days, weeks, months, years? I have no clue.
I am still eternally greatful to Miles for having the integrity to help all of us in this huge way. I didn’t keep my hatelife anywhere, and I have been hoping like hell that I’ll be able to get it back someday. That thing was ME, goddammit.
July 5th, 2004 at 11:16 am
Oh good. I was wondering what the hell happened to HL, so it’s good to see that it’ll be resurrected.
Good luck, Miles.
July 7th, 2004 at 2:45 pm
For the two people that read my journal: after I got-over hatelife being dismantled (however temporarily or permenantly) I started a journal up at diary-x.com.
You can read it at http://solvency.diary-x.com/
— I still exist. I’m still miserable.
Solvency
July 9th, 2004 at 6:16 pm
I set up sort of a community at my site, it has journals and forums for users.
It’s at http://just-nick.net/next
July 9th, 2004 at 10:24 pm
LOL Dont say shortly otherwise people expect it soon ;)
ETA??? :D
Again horray miles!
July 10th, 2004 at 3:50 am
where my hatelife?
July 13th, 2004 at 3:51 pm
we’ve been scattered like ducks with a little kid running at them, and our admirable duck king is nowhere to be seen, nor is there a quack of his to be heard. on top of that, everyone is leaving those six pack rings everywhere.
July 15th, 2004 at 2:29 pm
…now that’s something to quack about…
July 26th, 2004 at 3:34 am
http://elowel.blogdns.org/
Lots of K-morgue people here as well…
July 26th, 2004 at 11:26 am
wow…all the old hatelifers are here…glad to hear hatelife will be up again soon:)
in it’s absence, i got a new journal…http://www.tabulas.com/~thismortalcoil/ hope you drop by once in a while.
July 26th, 2004 at 6:47 pm
Heh, i was kinda hopeing to hear something about hatelife sooner or later. horrah….. hope to see it back soon.
September 16th, 2004 at 11:40 am